Vintage Siemens
Vintage Siemens
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 Real CCa Siemens pair perfect matched balanced no E88CC low quality  US $349.00
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 2 pcs Mullard Mustard Capacitors 0022 MFD 400 V US $35.00
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 Fullrange 8 20cm AlNico ALU DEW Speaker Telefunken US $129.00
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 Klangfilm fullrange 8 20cm AlNico Speaker VAC Berlin 6 Ruflsp22c US $129.00
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 NOS SIEMENS ECC801S 12AT7 E81CC Bundeswehr MATCHED PAIR US $119.96
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 Siemens Klangfilm fullrange AlNico Speaker DEW 6 Ruflsp13f US $199.00
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 LOT OF VINTAGE CAPACITORS RESISTORSEROSIEMENSITTETC US $20.00
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 8 pcs Wima Durolit Vintage Paper Capacitors 0047 MFD 1000 V NOS US $39.00
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 LOT OF VINTAGE OIL AND ALUMINUM CAPACITORS US $20.00
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 6DL4 E88C 8255 NOS SIEMENS TELEFUNKEN GOLD PIN LN MATCHED PAIR for MARANTZ 10 B US $64.25
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 4x D3a SIEMENS audio tubes NOS POST US $59.95
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 8 VACUUM TUBE AMP DAMPERS FOR EL34 6CA7 KT77 6L6WGB US $9.99
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 2x M Pair TESLA E88CC 6922 CCa Gold Pn NOS NIB 1977 Vintage lk Siemens US $45.99
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 Vintage Siemens Rohre Electron Tube Made in Germany West US $.90
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 10 pcs of Vintage Mullard OC76 OC 76 Transistors Germanium Transistor US $59.00
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 10 pcs Mullard Mustard Capacitors 0022 MFD 400 V US $149.00
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 10 pcs Mullard Mustard Capacitors 5600 pF 400 V NOS US $29.00
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 SABA Fullrange Big AlNico Speaker Permadyn 25 US $129.00
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 Fisher MF 300 Vintage FM Stereo Tube Tuner US $61.00
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 NOS SIEMENS E88CC 6922 PLATINUM TUBE for RODE K2 MIC US $125.00
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 2x EL34 power tubes SIEMENS RFT Telefunken Germany o getter EL 34 US $1.00
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 EL34 power tube MULLARD Siemens oo getter EL 34 US $1.00
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 EL12 325 SIEMENS TELEFUNKEN TeKaDe power tube EL 12 325 US $1.00
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 WORLDS BEST DIAMOND TELEFUNKEN PCC88 for 6DJ8 ECC88 6922 MATCHED PAIR TOP mA US $273.90
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 NOS TELEFUNKEN RIBBED ECC83 12AX7 MATCHED PR SUPER STRONG HIGH SPEC US $99.00
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 NOS TESTING 1959 TELEFUNKEN RIBBED ECC83 12AX7 MATCHED SAME DATE PR SUPER STRONG US $150.00
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 Siemens Klangfilm full range AlNiCo VAC speaker 6 ruf Isp 22C US $129.00
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 Siemens Klangfilm AlNico Tweeters VAC 6 ruf Isp 28a US $34.00
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 AZ1 PHILIPS rectifier tube MESH GLOBE AZ 1 US $2.25
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 E283CC PAIR SIEMENS DOUBLE TRIODES ECC83 TST NOS US $69.00
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 x12 RARE 005uF 400V PIO Capacitors KBG US $8.95
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 Isophon fullrange 10 25cm AlNico Speaker US $299.00
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 Isophon fullrange 8 20cm AlNico Speaker US $129.00
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 3 x ECF82 6U8 6U8A Telefunken label Siemens same codes 100 Dynavox VR70 amp US $5.00
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 10 pcs of Vintage Siemens Klangfilm Resistors 10 kΩ US $29.00
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 1 x PCC85 9AQ8 ECC85 6AQ8 Siemens Halske D getter 100 US $5.00
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 SIEMENS HALSKE ECC801S 12AT7W 6201 BWB SINGLE TUBE NOS US $67.98
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 20 pcs Vintage Siemens Klangfilm Mica Capacitors 225 pF NOS US $39.00
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 10 pcs Vintage Always Capacitors 005 MFD 110 V Siemens Sikatrop US $49.00
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 NOS SIEMENS ECC801S 12AT7 E81CC Bundeswehr MATCHED QUAD US $239.92
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 Vintage Siemens ECC85 6AQ8 Stereo Tube 4k US $19.99
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 Vintage Siemens E80L Goldpins Stereo Tube okuhg US $16.99
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 2 pcs Siemens MP J S Capacitors 4 MFD 400 V Glass Sealed for Klangfilm Amps US $49.00
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 Vintage RCA Siemens 6ES8 ECC189 Stereo Tube 4k NIB US $36.99
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 Vintage Fisher Siemens 6AQ8 ECC85 Stereo Tube US $32.99
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 20 pcs of Siemens Karbowid Resistors 20 kOhms 05 W US $49.00
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 Vintage SIEMENS 1uF 1600V Oil Capacitor US $13.99
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 1x EF91 6AM6 SIEMENS NOS GERMAN Tube Röhre Valvula Lampe TSF Valvola Valvula US $19.99
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 2x SIEMENS Klangfilm 8 AlNiCo fullrange SPEAKER 14g US $699.95
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 RARE 01uF 200V PIO Capacitors KBG Lot of 8 US $8.95
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 1pcs Siemens Klangfilm Type Vintage Knob Knöpfe SHAFT 60 mm US $19.00
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 2 x 8 Klangfilm AlNiCo 14 g vintage speaker Magnetfabrik Bonn 1950 US $589.00
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 1x ECC40 AA61 SIEMENS NOS Tube Valvola Lampe TSF Röhre Valvula US $69.99
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 matched pair of Telefunken ECC83 matched 12AX7 smooth plates US $199.00
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 2x PCL86 14GW8 SIEMENS NOS Tube Valvola Lampe TSF Röhre Valvula US $69.99
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 EF80 6BX6 NOS SIEMENS HALSKE TUBE for Darkvoice 337S US $44.00
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 2x MATCHED TUBES EL34 SIEMENS O Getter RFT TELEFUNKEN US $82.99
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 1x PCL82 16A8 N369 SIEMENS NOS Tube Valvula Röhre Lampe TSF Valvola US $19.99
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 1x E86C EC806S SIEMENS NOS Tube Valvula Valvola Röhre Valvola Lampe TSF US $34.99
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 1x PCL86 14GW8 SIEMENS Tube Valvula Valvola Lampe TSF Röhre US $24.99
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 PCL86 14GW8 SIEMENS NOS GERMAN Tube Röhre Valvula Lampe TSF Valvola US $49.99
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 Pair matched PCC88 7DJ8 Valvo Mullard 3 prs avail 6DJ8 E88CC replacement US $99.00
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 3 Vintage CBS Siemens 6BQ5 EL84 Stereo Tubes US $93.99
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 2x SIEMENS Klangfilm sound transformers 100V 6 Ohms US $49.95
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 2x PCL86 14GW8 SIEMENS NOS Tube Valvola Röhre Lampe TSF Valvula US $69.99
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 2x PCL86 14GW8 SIEMENS NOS GERMAN Tube Röhre Valvola Lampe TSF Valvula US $99.99
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 1x 12AT7 ECC81 PHILIPS NOS GERMAN SIEMENS Tube Röhre Lampe TSF Valvola Valvula US $99.99
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 AZ50 PHILIPS Miniwatt rectifier tube RGN4004 AZ 50 US $74.95
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 AZ50 TUNGSRAM rectifier tube RGN4004 AZ 50 US $49.95
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 AL4 TELEFUNKEN power tube AL 4 US $29.95
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How To Safely Buy Preowned Medical Systems
Very often there is a need to acquire additional capability in our health care facilities but there isn't always the funds to purchase a new, full-functioned, state of the art, diagnostic imaging system. Therefore, a decision must be made to determine if the additional services can be shifted to another facility or if it is critical or at least necessary to remain at your facility. The decision usually comes back that it needs to remain and options to accommodate it must be considered.
The first activity is to investigate potential solutions starting with new systems that deliver latest technology and extended functionality. Inviting manufacturer's sales representatives in usually begins the ball rolling. Generally, long meetings full of important facts about the capabilities of their systems help make you familiar with what's available and what it costs. Once the sticker shock subsides, you must now determine which of the features and functions discussed are absolutely necessary to carry out the application testing you need to accommodate. You probably will determine, in most cases, that basic functionality will be very appropriate to accommodate your requirement. For example, after investigating a 256 slice CT scanner's additional functionality and its cost, you may determine that a 16 slice unit would work quite well. But you also know that 16 slice technology has been available for some time and your budget is quite conservative (small). Therefore, you make the decision to investigate both new systems and pre-owned systems.
The first step is to re-contact the manufacturer's sales representatives and determine what the cost is for a new unit of older technology or if it is even still available. Now the sales people will be concerned you made this choice to move down to this older technology and probably won't offer any encouraging incentives unless you re-consider a more recent vintage, or they will claim these systems are no longer available and they will only be able to provide a price on a 32 or 64 slice system. It is at this point you decide that you will need to consider a pre-owned system, but how do you begin? You have heard horror stories of shady brokers who have run off with facilities money, delivered something totally inferior to what was ordered, or delivered systems missing components and requiring tens of thousands of additional dollars to complete the project. So where do you start?
The first thing you might consider doing is visiting the International Association of Medical Equipment Resellers and Servicers (IAMERS) web site. The organization was formed in the early 90's with the task of establishing a membership of companies committed to providing exceptional medical equipment, that maintained the highest ethical standards, and were willing to commit to being evaluated and monitored by its governing membership. Additionally, the organization is in continual contact with the FDA establishing important rules and operating procedures consistent with government policy. If you are considering acquiring pre-owned medical equipment, a quick visit to the IAMERS web site will provide you a list of companies that will provide a broad choice of available systems. Go to: http://www.iamers.org
Choose several potential providers and give them your choice of system to be acquired. It is important to share with them as much information as possible to save time and money during the selection process. They should be aware of the preferred
manufacturer (ie. GE, Siemens, Philips, etc), the model, the basic system functions, any options, required delivery date, and most importantly the amount budgeted for the system. Many organizations are hesitant to share available budget on concerns the supplier will move his sale price up to match the budgeted amount. This is silly. You will have multiple suppliers quoting and all interested in obtaining the business.
They will be very aggressive to win your business, which means big-time competition.
Also, why have a supplier spend the time to locate and offer you a $400K solution when you only have $250K to spend? As soon as you share with him your budget,
he will undoubtedly share with you whether you are in the ball park for what you
want or if you need to rethink what you are able to afford.
Once you have identified a supplier that can provide the preferred system, make sure you have considered all costs associated with the project, such as the cost of removing an existing system. Many times you will be able to have the system removed at no charge in trade for the system, or sometimes it may be a negotiated trade-in value, and other times it may be an out-right sale to the supplier or another third party. Room remodeling may be sometimes as simple as a new coat of paint or as involved as installing, shielding, changing power, installing new cable troughs, changing HVAC, lighting, flooring and/or the control room. The system supplier should provide detailed drawings indicating system location and required resources to successfully install the system. You need to consider access paths for the removal of old equipment and delivery of replacement equipment. Narrow hallways, tight corners, steps, ceiling heights, elevator capacities, door openings and truck docks (or the lack of) all need to be considered. Timing is usually critical. If you are removing an older system before installing the replacement, you are going to be without a system for as long as it takes to remove the old system and remodel the room. Schedule all activity and be sure the building contractors selected can meet the desired schedule. The supplier should provide in-service and/or application on-site training of the operation of the system. Lastly, you should identify a local service support group (it could be the manufacturer's service group or a third party group) who will offer an on-site system service contract once the suppliers warranty has expired.
Although the project may sound complicated, your organization will probably realize a savings of 50% or more and will have substantially increased capabilities. Most of the project activity is required whether you purchase new or pre-owned, so be prepared and tackle most of the things I addressed regardless of what you purchase. Although you can do more than one project at a time, you may want to limit yourself to one at a time unless you have a qualified staff to take on some of the tasks.
If you have concerns or questions about any of the issues discussed, don't hesitate contacting me, as we are involved with these projects continually.
About the Author
Charles Patti is President/CEO of NCD Medical Corp. and National Consulting and Development Corp.
Charles is based in northeast Ohio and has been in business since 1987. His diverse background includes sales, engineering, and business management. He has strong experience in Diagnostic Imaging Systems, Document Management Systems, Main Frame Computer Systems, and Combustion Control Systems.
Charles J Patti, President/CEO